Original Stain System vs. Endura Stain System from Jaime Villagomez
Original Stain System vs. Endura Stain System from Jaime Villagomez
Jaime Villagomez, our CEO, was asked to explain Original Stain system vs Endura Stain:
Here are a few thoughts about the differences between the two systems.
Flexibility in Use
Our original solid stain is a workhorse and does a great job but we wanted to create a product that could be as good or better that had no pot life and was a single component. Both systems were designed to be offered in Solid Color, Semi-Transparent or Translucent. We call the non-solid versions Enhancers in the original system; Semi-Transparent is Designer Series Enhancer and Tranlucent is Enhancer and used in antiquing stamped surfaces or very subtle stain. We have the same for Endura system but we have added another semi-transparent called Faux Fusion which gives more intensity but also more transparency like a traditional acid stain look.
A few key points:
Endura Solid Highlights
- single component (allows for easy touch ups without having to mix a kit)
- no pot life (original has 5 hour pot life)
- must still be mixed before use to pull up pigments but they suspend better (less mixing but still necessary)
- can be brushed, rolled or airless spray (original solid can only be brushed) – roll or airless spray on smoother surfaces – brush or spray on textured like a stamp.
- does not need to be worked as much as original with backbrushing (although a little may be necessary)
- Endura Solid is not nearly as opaque in the lighter colors but probably 90-95% as original
- dry time – both dry pretty fast in regular summer applications. Recoat generally within the hour. But do not go too soon on either system or you’ll end up re-emulsifying the first coat and removing it a bit as you try to apply the second. Also don’t wait too long for recoat. Intercoat adhesion is often about timing.
Endura Faux Fusion Highlights
- we have recreated standard acid stain colors and it gives the effect pretty easy due to specialty pigments.
- very low build and easy to work with
- Excellent as the stand alone antiquing aid on Stamped surfaces or with several different faux fusion colors
- Can be sprayed, brushed or used with many techniques
Does the Endura system need to be sealed?
- It will do fine in many environments wihtout a sealer given it is a blend of urethane and acrylic but we recommend sealing
- Has UV blockers and other special high performance resins to have great durability and uv stability. We see it outperforming original in color lasting.
- It is easier to recommend to seal all things as sometimes it definitely needs sealer to protect from environment or wear and tear.
- Original system we didn’t always require it of solid color but should have as many times its fine but sometimes its a good idea. Just easier to say to seal all the time with Endura and user can decide if environment doesn’t need it due to low impact such as vertical or residential patio etc.
- Using water-based sealer is preferred to solvent based. Solvent based sealers are like acrylic swimming in a pot of paint stripper. When you apply the paint stripper it will soften and start to weaken the stains or undercoats and then when it evaporates it allows to harden. Water-based stains and other products need more cure time 48 hours probably before a solvent can be applied or it can mess with the cure. Water-based sealers however, can go on after an hour as they are more compatible.
- Endura is less expensive per square foot – closer to 30 cents per square foot vs 40 cents when purchased in a 5 gallon pail. Leaves budget for sealer.
- Endura Faux Fusion can compete with acid stain at about 15 cents per square foot (+/-). Obviously depending on use.
- When needing to hide a lighter color – it does a better job but another coat of Endura will get you there as well.
- Using an Enhancer over Solid color. When anitquing an enhancer over solid, the enhancer flows a bit better. We are working on this for the endura. We built in some protective properties into the Endura but it causes some an endura enhancer to flow off of it more into the puddles creating greater contrast. As such we recommend using straight Faux Fusion or Endura Enhancer onto a stamped project or the original system. (we are working on this to improve ease of enhancing with a translucent)
Where is Original system better?
Problems – What problems have we had?
- Our first batch had a bit of a problem with a super-wetter (an ingredient that helps the stain penetrate well) that caused a bit more difficulty making an even solid color. Not sure what happened – its so powerful that we may have slightly overdosed it..very little is required. We removed it from the formula and went back to our traditional wetting aid which is working great.
- We have had problems with people overworking it – trying to apply it like the original but its not. The original solid due to the powder pigments requires back brushing to spread evenly the color – working it in is less about penetration and more about even color application. The Endura Solid does not need as much. If using a brush perhaps one application and a backbrushing for evening things out one or two passes..then let it set. Overworking is not good.
Prep – Endura as original needs proper prep. Clean and porous surfaces not applied when its too hot or too cold.
- Endura is better applied to a dry surface not wet or damp. Original was a bit more tolerant.
- Using Eco-Acid Plus: cleaner, degreaser, and exfoliating cleaner (light etch) is always helpful.
- Get to know the product and its attributes. Every product has its personality so play with it in a small area first to know what best application methods and tools are.
- Make sure you prep well. Accomplish the result don’t just go throught the motions.
- Stick with a system – Use EnduraSealers as they are most compatible.
The bottom line: We have been very successful with both systems. We created Endura as an answer to the requests from contractors that wanted a system they could trust their summer help to do – with less mixing and easier to do big projects with an airless sprayer. We also wanted to improve durabiltiy, hot tire resistance, uv stability, no pot life and a slew of other items.
In some cases Original Solid is great as its been proven for many years on countless of global projects. When this product has failed its often been due to 1) prep 2) concrete failure and 3) should have been sealed and was not.
For Endura – we seem to have greater success with those who never used the Original as they apply it straightforward with no thought of rebrooming to death.
As of last year, we sold about 50/50 – original system and Endura. Both have their followers.